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Sergio Ling
Standard Operations Building Services Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.01 22:34:00 -
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It's an expected offer from someone who has the upper hand.
Is it a scrabble in desperation before IAC implement something else? _
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Sergio Ling
Standard Operations Building Services Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.01 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: ollobrains no offical word from IAC i guess they want to loose it perhaps ISS could simply take it as a corparate hostile takeover due to attacks on their own assets and rent it out to a friendly organisation
is 'ollo' foreign for 'no' ? _
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Sergio Ling
Standard Operations Building Services Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.01 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: ollobrains i dont think -a- would want to take on ISS with MC in their chequebook ( MC do a great job btw) but thats the way i see it
but butter dog says MC are scared of AAA _
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Sergio Ling
Standard Operations Building Services Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.01 22:58:00 -
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well i just got my dividends from the MArginis outpost today, nice and healthy. Good to see business is still strong. I guess the indicator will be the next one? _
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Sergio Ling
Standard Operations Building Services Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.01 23:01:00 -
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Originally by: Press Officer
Quote: Its a nice effort, it would have been a better effort if you simply just said
OK we are leaving F4 we both made mistakes we are admiting ours if you can admit your.
Complete rubbish ..... as per normal ..
More like ..
You can have the station back as long as you don't declare war on the ISS again ..
PWYM _
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Sergio Ling
Standard Operations Building Services Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.01 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Press Officer
Quote: Agreed.
This is an obvious attempt at turning public oppinion against IAC. Very sad that ISS has to use such tactics now.
Indeed we shall see what happens next... Hopefully ISS is out of Catch soon. Would be nice if they all decided to live in EC
Complete dribble ..
Smart move for a shareholder alliance ... try being it sometime ...
A public offer for peace and the station back for free .... all IAC have to do is not shoot at the ISS ....
Now the whole of Eve are not in the dark if/when the IAC give a formal response and not this Priory DHB dribble.
PWYM _
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Sergio Ling
Standard Operations Building Services Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.01 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: Press Officer
Quote: It does not matter what the offer is.. the point is Count T know for a fact IAC won't accept it. Therefore
Therefore nothing ... its called being smart ..... shall I spell it for you 
If they reject any offer behind close doors and spin the total opposite to the public and the ISS shareholders then its the smartest move ever to put it on the public table so everyone knowsin Eve whats the IAC are after ..
The ISS offered the station back after the IAC declared war on them ... its that simple.
PWYM _
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Sergio Ling
Standard Operations Building Services Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.01 23:29:00 -
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Originally by: Press Officer PWYM .... sorry attempt when your argument fails ...
if you'll notice, i have no argument, i'm spectating. You, on the other hand, still need to Post With Your Main _
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Sergio Ling
Standard Operations Building Services Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.02 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: Khal Edited by: Khal on 01/01/2007 23:57:41 Ok, I'm sorry but can all the speculation and accusations of "They're just doing propaganda" stop.... please? ISS clearly wanted to make a public offer. We all are intelligent enough to form the english language here so we know what a public post entails and that ISS wanted to forums to see it. So what? It doesn't matter, right about where the IAC guys publicly responded "Hell No" the thread should have been over. All these new posts are doing is keeping this thread near the top of the boards... which ironically I just did. So to recap: 1.) ISS made a public offer for peace, albiet with certain terms and conditions 2.) Many uneeded posts that serve nothing to any reader of this forum were posted before any IAC response (Ten minutes of my life I will never get back... it was addressed to IAC, no one else) 3.)IAC said an emphatic no 4.) Crap Crap and more Crap
The only worthwhile post after this was shareholders inquiring what this means for ISS, since they have a vested interest.
Unless you have something valuable to say, please please please save everyone else the trouble of reading it. And yes, my post is just as worthless, but frustration has limits.
(above posted with alt)
You say two things. One, it's a public off, and two, it's just for IAC. It's one or the other _
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Sergio Ling
Standard Operations Building Services Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.02 00:11:00 -
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Originally by: Press Officer PWYM
Macro key installed I guess for when your argument fails 
PWYM _
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Sergio Ling
Standard Operations Building Services Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.02 00:38:00 -
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Originally by: DHB FooFighter
Originally by: ollobrains
Originally by: Zhen Komai if aaa and ragoons are iacs uber allies. why have they let one of your stations be taken? and why have they not committed to taking it back for you?
Ooo but we have AAA.. so where are they?
in this case IAC are bluffing
Yes, noone is coming to help us. We are utterly defenseless. Don't bother showing up.
I was gonna bring 3 caracals... _
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Sergio Ling
Standard Operations Building Services Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.04 00:24:00 -
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Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Originally by: Smoking Mirror Then your leaders and logistics people need to get their crap together and use restricted escrows, trades, hangers, whatever, to get gear into the hands of people who need it. If you put crap out on the market -- it's on the market.
ANYONE could have played it -- including whoever was paying MC, or MC itself. Or some neutral wandering by seeing a market opportunity. Anyone. That's how markets work.
It was going on before McFix war. It was going on before my corp even joined IAC. It was going on after the first McFix war. People talking about it being a free market need to realize... its not. That strip of Catch is IAC space. Despite what people think, we protect our market. We are watching who's doing what. The IAC members that are exploiting the market are being watched and personally confronted.
As for ISS 'market pvp'
When you can't sell a frigate in your space for under a million because ISS will buy them all and resell them for a 500% markup over build cost it puts a strain on the pew pew. You are forced to sell high just so they won't crowd you off the market. When 'pre-revelations' your escrow system with restricted alliance only purchases are just as busy as the actuall market... it makes you look at what is going on.
ISS operate under a free market. We don't. If someone in IAC buys from our producers at alliance cost and then sells it on the market at a markup they aren't going to be sold to again. When I make battleships in immensea and sell them in I-N on the Maesltrom market I sell them at IAC prices ( 110m for a raven ). If Maelstrom want to buy it and resell it for 180 its not my business. It is my business if that happens in the IAC core system.
I don't like using the old escrow system to stop profiteering and we aren't going to use the contracts exclusively now. Its our market. Had a good spirited portion of ISS actually lived there and work directly with us to create a better market a lot of ill will would never have existed. ISS, you should know alt, don't prevent anything; they work on a shady reimbursement if your navy or members pew pew out of line. As it has been said before, market pvp was not a direct reason to go to war; it was one of many.
ISS never treated us with any respect regarding our market. Their operation has to change if they expect to stay apolitical and 'do not own space' outside of the game mechanic that keeps sov. As empires grow around them they better take notice and work hard with their people who do claim ownership of the area.
WTB 110m Raven in MP please _
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Sergio Ling
Standard Operations Building Services Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.08 10:16:00 -
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Originally by: hungdra IAC and SOD,
You guys undocked yet or still fighting the war on the forums.....
aw bless, your sig says neutral, your smack mouth says different. KOS sir _
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